It may just be me but does anyone else struggle with people in general and over-arching 'management' not really getting it that when you get or see a security based event from your LM or SIEM; that this is just the beginning of a process and not the end? I mean they say they get it but you just have this feeling that they really don’t get it? Now I’m not saying my statement reflects my current management, it is more a generalized observation as you start to bring people into the conversation who might not have been exposed to this sort of technology or the exposure is limited to a conversation about needing to monitor something. And there is a level of irony as some of these folks are in the actual vendor space.
I’m sort of an analogy guy and this has been one of those things that has plagued me for some years now – what is a good equivalence that helps people get it? I thought of one today that might work but still feels sort of rough. Figured I would use this as a sounding board and hopefully get some feedback. Who knows, maybe just putting it down on paper will help refine it.
While driving around in your car you generally are vaguely aware of, but may or may not pay a whole lot of attention to, your gas gauge. Some probably have more of an alert mentality and wait for the gas to get to the last X% when you get the audible chime indicating you are low. You now are more focused on the situation and ‘remediate’ the issue by stopping off at a gas station and filing up. I think this is somewhat analogous what ‘management’ thinks of when they hear things along the line of monitoring alerts. That the process is generall closed and ends when you get the alert. Alert > gas station > fixed. The problem is that isn't what we are talking about. SIEM/LM alerts, I think, are more akin to all of the gauges in your car that don’t even show until there is an issue. Things like low oil pressure, over heating, your engine service light. Any of those things coming on means something isn’t right somewhere but unless you pop the hood and/or break out some diagnostic equipment you don't know the severity. Could be a complex, multi-component breakdown or just something a little out of whack that takes a simple fix. Oh and don't forget the number of things that can happen to your car that you don't have a gauge for: breaks, suspension, tire alignment, etc. Multiply that picture by the number of end point systems you have in your environment and I think we are getting a little closer to a decent analogy. The point is the alert often isn't actionable other than letting you know you need to start an investigative process.
What do you think - does it work? Do you have suggestions, tweaks, or better analogies that have worked for you as you try to convey to people that monitoring alerts is more than just sitting around waiting for them to pop in your inbox?
Thursday, June 2, 2011
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
What influences your day to day decision making?
Does your strategic vision drive your tactical focus or do your tactical decisions turn into your strategic vision?
Will you have the same answer when you look back in six months?
Will you have the same answer when you look back in six months?
Friday, May 6, 2011
The mortar between your defenses
The other day I read a bit by Andreas M. Antonopoulos on Networkworld about how to be an effective security buyer. Of course when it came to finding the article again when I wanted to write this….I couldn’t find it. +1 to the Interwebs though because Mike Rothman over at Securosis mentioned it in Wednesday's Incite 4 U. Andreas’ advice seems to be when you are buying security tools to not buy something designed to fulfill a singular function. Instead go for multi-purpose tools that can cover down on multiple areas. I think the idea somewhat boils down to knocking out two birds with one stone + it sucks to have to look at one dashboard for each tool you have. Enterprise resource scaling aside though I tend to agree with Mike’s take. What really stood out to me was an analogy Andreas used:
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
SIEM/LM Analyst Training part 2
The conversation in a meeting the other morning led to a thought…well more of an analogy really. It struck me that in some respects a SIEM/LM analyst or content creator is similar to an auditor. What I mean is you have groups of people devoted to keeping lights blinking be that AV, endpoint management, FW, etc. And then you have groups of people outside of care and feeding group(s) that try to distill value out of either those systems’ configuration or logs to some ends leveraging some other toolset be that specific or multiple compliance requirements or SIEM/LM tools. Auditors and SIEM/LM analysts (at least the tools they use) are sort of a force multiplier in a very loose algebraic sense:
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
How do you address training for SIEM/LM analysts?
I struggled a bit with the title but bear with me.
The question arises from time to time and especially now that I am at my new job where we are being asked to submit training requests for next year’s budget cycle – what training would you like to get/attend? Good question. The challenge in the SIEM-esque/LM space (IMHO) is you are getting events from any number of disparate systems which you may or may not have familiarity. My experience is generally there is a team of folks devoted to the care and feeding of a particular piece of technology but they usually don’t actually look at the (log) data coming out of it with an eye towards taking action – they are focused on making sure the blinking lights stay blinking. You come in at the critical juncture point of marrying up conceptual detection use cases to the technical exercise of extracting value out of the logs the blinking lights produce. So how do you bridge that knowledge gap or do you even approach the subject of getting training with an eye towards this gap or leverage the "training" opportunity to dive into other areas?
I sure would be interested in how people have tackled this issue. A “Just in Time” 3rd party SME type education model appeals to me but would guess most shops don’t have enough people (or able to free up enough people) to justify the expense of hosting custom training on-site. No doubt shop maturity factors into the discussion. The SANS Intrusion Detection In-Depth class looks pretty good and looks like it covers a decent swath of topics. Have folks found any other good general type courses or do you tend to focus in on specific items/threat types of training with an eye towards “reverse engineering” your knowledge relative to the specific data streams you have coming into your solutions?
The question arises from time to time and especially now that I am at my new job where we are being asked to submit training requests for next year’s budget cycle – what training would you like to get/attend? Good question. The challenge in the SIEM-esque/LM space (IMHO) is you are getting events from any number of disparate systems which you may or may not have familiarity. My experience is generally there is a team of folks devoted to the care and feeding of a particular piece of technology but they usually don’t actually look at the (log) data coming out of it with an eye towards taking action – they are focused on making sure the blinking lights stay blinking. You come in at the critical juncture point of marrying up conceptual detection use cases to the technical exercise of extracting value out of the logs the blinking lights produce. So how do you bridge that knowledge gap or do you even approach the subject of getting training with an eye towards this gap or leverage the "training" opportunity to dive into other areas?
I sure would be interested in how people have tackled this issue. A “Just in Time” 3rd party SME type education model appeals to me but would guess most shops don’t have enough people (or able to free up enough people) to justify the expense of hosting custom training on-site. No doubt shop maturity factors into the discussion. The SANS Intrusion Detection In-Depth class looks pretty good and looks like it covers a decent swath of topics. Have folks found any other good general type courses or do you tend to focus in on specific items/threat types of training with an eye towards “reverse engineering” your knowledge relative to the specific data streams you have coming into your solutions?
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